Town Meeting Passes Seasonal Leaf-Blower Ban
Arlington's legislative body approved the annual five-month ban Monday in a 95-85 vote.
Town Meeting voted Monday to ban the use of gas-powered leaf blowers from May 15 to Oct. 15 on private property in Arlington.
The town bylaw amendment was put forth by Town Meeting member Robert Radochia as a substitute motion under Article 25 at the beginning of Monday’s session. After 15 minutes of debate, it carried 95-85 in a standing vote, after it was originally declared defeated by Town Moderator John Leone in a voice vote.
The vote to consider Radochia’s substitute motion under Article 25 passed by an even slimmer margin, 84-81.
Radochia’s compromise
Radochia, of Precinct 11, said he saw his substitute motion as a compromise between members who wanted to maintain the status quo and not prohibit the use of gas-powered leaf blowers and those who wanted to implement the year-round ban, which was proposed by member Carol Band last session. Between May 15 and Oct. 15, there aren’t many leaves, he said.
After deciding to consider Radochia’s substitute motion under Article 25, members chose not to consider Band’s (the two motions would’ve been somewhat at odds).
Article 25 was initially inserted by Band. However, it failed to get the support of the Board of Selectmen, which is why a substitute motion was needed for Town Meeting to act.
Supporters’ claims
Band and member Jeremy Marin, of Precinct 16, gave lengthy presentations last session in favor of the year-round ban. They said gas-powered leaf blowers create noise pollution, are a health risk and are bad for the environment. They also said that they are unnecessary for Arlington’s relatively small yards.
‘Extremism at its worst’
However, opponents of Band’s substitute motion said that any ban would be going too far. Member Maria Romano, of Precinct 7, reiterated this point Monday.
“This is extremism at its worst,” she said in a passionate address to Town Meeting.
“It is not your right to tell others how to live,” Romano added.
She also accused Band and Marin of fear mongering.
Town Meeting had defeated a similar leaf-blower article in 2008.
Attendance
On Monday, the standing vote showed that 180 of Town Meeting’s 245 members (there are seven vacancies), or 73 percent of the body, voted on the town bylaw amendment.
As for life without gas-powered leaf blowers: “Ten minutes with a broom or rake is very therapeutic for the body and mind,” Radochia told Town Meeting members light heartedly.
The fines associated with violating one of the town’s bylaws cannot exceed $20 unless otherwise stated, Town Counsel Juliana Rice said last session.
Town budgets
On Monday, Town Meeting members also approved all town budgets, Article 40, in a unanimous vote.
Almost done
With seven sessions (21 hours) in the books, Town Meeting has now addressed 49 of 72 articles on the Town Meeting Warrant, leaving 23 to go when they reconvene Wednesday. Leone said if members work “diligently” on Wednesday, they might be able to finish.
Karen Schaejbe
8:57 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
You have GOT to be kidding me!!! Just what we need....a little more government in our lives!!!!!
charles ginsberg
4:02 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
no a little less noise. try sleeping at 7 a.m. with leaf blowers outside your window. if you love your leaf blower go into the woods in some conservation area and blow away till your heart's content. have you ever heard of a rake?
charles ginsberg
4:11 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
this was a people vote. town meeting members. if you don't like government than become a member and just vote against everything
Tim
9:30 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
WOW .........Another reason why I HATE THIS TOWN
charles ginsberg
4:03 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
by all means please move and take your blower with u.
Mary T
10:30 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012
@ Tim...then move.
inthegloaming
12:15 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
Then you have the option to move. Isn't that what you suggested others do if they don't like things here?
Catherine
9:47 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
This vote is very much appreciated by people with asthma and other respiratory problems. The annoying noise is only one of the problems caused by leaf-blowers. Thank you to the Town Meeting members.
Mary T
10:14 am on Friday, July 20, 2012
Absolutely Catherine. As a nurse I see how the air we breathe every day affects people. There is nothing good about leaf blowers as far as I know.
Rich
9:53 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
This is ridiculous, I believe most of the data used to ban the leaf blowers was from 2000 or before, and since then the EPA has tightened regulations and the Db level of the leaf blowers has come down to the low 60's and not the high levels of 70-90 that people were claiming. When i stated this in one of my messages on the Arlington List, i was told i was nit-picking. That is what they call it when you present facts...."Nit-picking"
As for the noise, we have a town ordinance banning lous noises at certain times of the day. So in my opinion, that argument is moot!
MC Miga
2:37 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Forget about taxes going up, lets spend more time on important issues like this. Perhaps a ban on July 4th fireworks is in order. Lawn mowers really shoud be banned also. Harleys are way too loud.
fxmjr
3:18 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
FXMJR
Just keep in mind that it specifies GAS, so get your electric blowers out. You just need a longer cord. Looks like the local hardware store will need to stock up. There are always ways around stupid people with stupid ideas. Good luck Arlington. From your next door neighbor who can take care of their property that they own and not their town.
charles ginsberg
2:16 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
get a rake. lazy. get some exercise. some of us actually like to sleep in the morning.
Ellen
8:04 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Our leaders in this town don't seem to think about what damage this does to landscaping businesses, also the additional cost to customers.
Liberals are anti business, this is just another example of what damage they can do with their wacko ideas, go back to Cambridge and leave us alone.
Leaf
11:35 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
The leaders, meaning the Board of Selectmen, in this town recommended no action be taken on this article Ellen. Thus, the "leaders" to blame in this case are the town meeting members!
It is amusing how fired up people get regarding this issue. I mean, c'mon, who uses leaf blowers between May and October anyway? And who is going to enforce this ban? That's right, there isn't anyone to enforce it!
charles ginsberg
4:08 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
liberals!! what's this got to do with liberals. I'm conservative and I hate being woken up most mornings at 7 a.m. with 3 or 4 leaf blowers outside my window in my 3 neighbors yards who all have different landscapers, every other day. ya like all the landscapers will boycott arlington. get real and get a rake.
charles ginsberg
3:04 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
please move to mississippi or alabama and take tim with you.
Shaun
7:55 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012
And yet the tax rate per $1000 of home value is half that of Arlington while Cambridge spends twice as much per capita than Arlington supporting parks, green space and the arts.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
7:29 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
This action opens up a tremendous opportunity for the nuclear-powered leaf blower. Mine runs quietly and produces no carbon footprint. Would someone in Arlington like to borrow it?
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
will bradley
8:55 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Not all "modern technology" is beneficial... gas leaf blowers, while a handy tool for some have more downsides: they use 2-cycle engines which EPA studies say are highly polluting. They may have come down in noise, but are still disturbing in any neighborhood. They certainly can create a dust storm of dirt and who knows what else. Hey whatever happened to the corn broom for sweeping sidewalks? Orange Co. California studies show no net costs to taxpayers or homeowners from their ban. And then who is looking out for the laborer running the machine, most don't wear ear protection, eye protection, or respiratory protection. I'd suggest the ban is worthy of implementation... Bravo Arlington !
jeff
5:30 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
It seems that alot of people like yourself forget or do not know how important these machines are to small and large business. What this will do use put a strain on these businesses and the employess and then in turn the businesses will pass the labor costs on to their customers. No one benifits from this ban. What this is in short is how a few people who have nothing better to do can make the majority bow down to their beliefs. It is communism if you ask me. Lets just ban anything that makes noise or produces spent gas. As for the laborers who run these machines. It is their own decisiion and right to choose to wear eye, ear or respiratory protection! And no one elses! What ever happened to the land of the free? It is slowing getting trampled on by nonsence as this.
Maple Leaf
11:37 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Why don’t we just ban everything.....how stupid. I have lived here my whole life and I am proud to call Arlington my home, but now I am really frustrated and honestly disgusted. When the town can’t sweep the street and debris is everywhere on my road I push the debris into piles and then sweep it up and put it into my own leaf bags. Guess I won’t be helping out like I use to and doing my part as a good citizen.
Zolton, you are fair to say lets compromise, but these town meeting members who want this bylaw in place don’t comprise, it’s their way or the highway!
I am just going to go out and buy a large and loud yard vacuum. It’s much louder than my gas leaf blower and has a bigger engine....That certainly does not help the environment...but the town meeting members who wanted the ban got it so enjoy!
Thank you to those on Town Meeting who voted against this article.
charles ginsberg
2:13 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
try buying a rake. get some exercise.
charles ginsberg
1:37 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012
have you gone out and bought your large and loud vacuum yet?
inthegloaming
7:57 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
If you are a Townie, and proud of it, are you proud that you are aggressively planning to go out of your way to harrass your neighbors with noise? What kind of adult response is that? What a childish tantrum when you don't get your own way. It's who's way or the highway? Yours, it seems, or you plot revenge. If this passed by a MAJORITY VOTE, then more people want it than not. Put on your Big Boy/Gal panties and deal like a grown-up. Now, that's being "a Good Citizen."
Sally field
1:38 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
This is crazy!!!! And yes, it specifies gas powered leaf blowers...we own an electric one and will be using it!!! Dumb meets dumber on this one
john trasker
3:31 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
If we ban blowers why dont we ban mowers, motorcycles, trucks, blenders, etc... as all of them are even more noise. All of these people fail to realize that people who use this equipment rely on it for their livelyhood. What is funny is this is directed to private businesses and not municiple workers. WTF is That?!!! The argument with the emissions is a joke. Show us the data that suggests that the emmissions are that bad, then we'll talk about a ban. The people who want the ban are completely inaccurate and just want to make things harder for companies to do business here. This is utterly diguisting. Oh and one guy said its theraputic to sweep. Tell you what, come work with me and cut 25 lawns a day and sweep up after. Lets see how theraputic it is for you buddy. If your arms don't fall off!!!!
Laura
9:57 pm on Thursday, August 9, 2012
We should ban children too because they are often time very noisy especially when they play outside and have fun and then charles ginsberg can get his beauty rest
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
9:29 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012
John,
You're points are well taken. However... liberals feel and conservatives think. Try reasoning with some Arlington liberals. Better yet raise your prices to compensate for manual leaf removal.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
charles ginsberg
2:11 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
thank you thank you thank you. I am thrilled. yay, I can finally sleep in the morning after getting home late at night from work. thank you thank you thank you. no more 7:30 a.m obnoxious noise from every neighbor's yard blowing 10 leaves in to the gutters. thank you thank you thank you!!
jeff
9:24 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
You say "get a rake lazy" Well charles we landscapers er as far from lazy as can be! We are out in the harshest of weather performing manual labor. It is not about being lazy. Its about performing a job. We cut on average 30-40 lawns per day, after we cut the lawn all the hard surfaces have clippings on them and we use the blowers to clean them. If we were to use a rake or a broom, we would never be able to perform our jobs. The lawn cut would take 3-4 times longer and the cost would go up 3-4 times also. So think before you speak. Maybe get educated on a subject before you start telling people they are lazy. Where will it end? Lets ban lawn mowers, chain saws, motorcyles. Hey lets ban dogs from barking and babies from crying too while we are at it! Enough already we do not need more government or laws. Lets try enforcing the laws we have first. Get a clue charles its the few like you who put up a stink and expect the rest to bow down to what you think is right. If you believe that this is a good idea, you are not a conservative at all. Stop fooling yourself!
Coco
9:38 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Jeff -- WELL said !!! great intelligent response !!
'get a rake' -- the ignorance in that statement is astounding !
Roger L.
9:36 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Radochia said ,"there aren’t many leaves" - Because it's currently being cleaned up, going forward if people can't clean up the leaves, your sewer drains will get clogged, more car accidents will happen and your town is going to look messy and unmaintained.
Andrew W.
10:56 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Seems like a pretty decent compromise. There are legitimate -- and essentially overlapping -- rights arguments on both sides: the right to do what you want on private property and the right not to have your private property disturbed.
The former is clear, and clearly established. The latter is more nuanced but does have a history of accepted legislation and enforcement, the simplest example being laws about disturbing the peace and enforcing them in the case of fights on private property or loud parties.
That's the philosophical side. The practical side -- and I admit I only have a year's worth of experience in Arlington -- is 1) what do landscaping companies use leaf blowers for in the spring and summer? and 2) as a neighbor, I know I'd feel a twinge of self-consciousness when I know I'm spoiling my neighbors' quiet. Is that not how others feel?
I guess my point is, my preference would be for neighbors to have these discussions face-to-face ("My restaurant stays open late, and Saturday morning is really the only time I can get some rest. If I brought you one of my restaurant's banana cream pies, could I convince you to use your leaf blower after noon?"), but local laws, especially the kind that aren't easily enforceable, tend to set social expectations more than anything. So I don't see this is a liberal/conservative divide as much as majority agreement on a (hard-to-enforce) norm.
charles ginsberg
10:56 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
I would have been happy with a leaf blowers ok from 10 a.m. till 4 p.m. but starting at 7 a.m. no way.
Coco
6:45 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012
Spread the word--- there is a meeting at Winchester Golf Club Saturday morning 10am to get this ridiculas ban over turned.
Please spread the word to Landscaping Co., Asphault and Construction company's etc.
There will be a Petition to get the ban over turned as well, find out where you can find it and sign it!!!.
Maple Leaf
1:20 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
What is the address of the Winchester Golf Club? Is that before woburn four corners after the shopping Plaza where Toy R Us is?
Coco
2:01 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Maple leaf, I'm not sure but I was told the Winchester Golf club house is actually located IN Arlington. Maybe you can google it.
charles ginsberg
11:00 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
mollie, i believe the fine will be 200$ not 20.
Coco
2:06 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Mobile, I think the fine is $200. I think the above it a mis-print.
smerls
5:05 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
That is something that needs clarification...In the absence of any specified amount the fine is $20...For a noise violation it would be $200. I think some folks think this would come under a noise violation hence the $200. However don't most leaf blowers come under the legal limits, sorry I don't know what the legal limit is, I think 80 decibels but I am not sure??
joe
11:34 am on Friday, May 18, 2012
Good thing i live on a private way good luck to the police when they are responding to this garbage and they are really needed give me a break.
Coco
1:00 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Charles, Are you always this rude, condecending and ignorant during a discussion?
As a fellow conservative, I am horrified at rudeness and arrogance.
BTW- there is Meeting with the Selectmen on Monday night at 7pm on this ban, so please SPREAD THE WORD anyone that wants this over turned.
Thanks Susan
Maple Leaf
1:21 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
What is the address of the Winchester Golf Club? Is that before woburn four corners after the shopping Plaza where Toy R Us is?
Maple Leaf
1:23 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
I dont know who this Charles Ginsberg guy is, but he is really offensive. I live on one of the best streets in Arlington and never ever have i heard a leaf blower at 7am even on weekends. I think there are issues with this guy that go beyond leaf blowers.
Coco
2:09 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
I think you are correct Maple Leaf.
I Googled him ... I think I know who he is, and I have a mutual friend on FB with him.
smerls
4:57 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
Winchester Country Club is just over the Arlington line, Actually I think it sits on the Arlington Line on the road with the Arlington Community Safety Building (I am horrible with street names) that goes to Mahoney's etc..m
charles ginsberg
7:06 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012
at least I have the guts to put down my real name and not hide behind a moniker like maple head
joe
3:30 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012
How about snow blowers they are noisy.Maybe we should shovel the streets then we wont have to listen to the plows.We could ban sirens after midnight i hate being disturbed when someone needs help.good thing the military is fighting for us hate being dictated to.Well i guess it will be a mute point when the oil runs out.What else can we ban.great living in a free country were we can force our way of thinking into laws that everyone gets to live with.
charles ginsberg
6:56 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012
or better yet, we can ban your mouth from whining so much
Tim
9:27 am on Sunday, May 20, 2012
Charles Ginsberg says it all ........Just the name alone ... Let me guess you don't like Saint Agnes or Cristmas trees on town property either?
charles ginsberg
7:15 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012
hey moron,, you spelled christmas incorrectly and by the way who is this saint agnes?
Tim
8:54 pm on Sunday, May 20, 2012
SHE isn't going to be buying a home from you... Thats for sure...... HEY CHARLIE I guess I found a new place to start MY HARLEY with STRAIGHT PIPES at 7AM .. TANAGER Street ..... No LAW against on STARTING A HARLEY
charles ginsberg
12:56 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
hey after you start your motorcycle put your mouth on your pipes. don't forget to wear your klan robe.
joe
7:21 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
I dont whine i say it as i see it.so does the private property mean the town can still use blowers on town property.If so i guess a home owner can use a blower on the sidewalk in front of there house since its town property. Also since town bylaws do not apply to private ways there should be no problems at those locations.If you get a copy of town bylaws you will see almost every house is in violation in some respect.Who will be enforcing these laws since no one seems to be doing it with the other bylaws.Well i guess arlington has come full circle since it use to be west cambridge.
MarkPag
8:44 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
For all the landscapers out there. Read up on what your blowers are really doing to the environment. As for a challenge, read about the 50 yr old woman ( http://www.nonoise.org/quietnet/cqs/leafblow.htm#grandma ) who uses a rake and broom. The way good old landscapers used to perform there job.
Coco
9:47 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
Mark, interesting article a bit dated but whatever..It shows how quickly blowers get the job done, a few mins right? not hours like people are complaining about.
Part of this debate is it's ANOTHER ban!! As a property owner, you should be able to use a gas blower if you want, if you'd like to use a rake and broom then go ahead!!! It's another freedom taken away. My neighbor just had his lawn done and those hedge trimmers were loud, should we ban those too? go back to manual ones? I was talking with a Policemen the other day and we were laughing because if you get caught with marijuana it's $100 fine but a leaf blower is $200 !!!! LOL !!
joe
11:44 am on Monday, May 21, 2012
i guess i dont get the time put into this I cut my lawn one time a week then blow the driveway and walkway off.My blower is on for a max of 5 minutes.It does a better job than my push broom could ever do in a tenth of the time.If anyone that had these band would like to give me 300 $ for the blower i bought a month ago that would be great.
Tim
12:10 pm on Monday, May 21, 2012
Where's Charlie Greenberg ??? Out selling houses ? Maybe I should put a proposal about limiting the open houses one agent can have in town .
charles ginsberg
12:59 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
we can ban idiots in town. then where would you move to? sieg heil adolph, oops I mean tim, seig heil
Tim
8:14 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I am not from Winthrop . I am from here BORN and RAISED . Why don't you move back...... Hey before you make another anti semetic joke . I have Jewish Blood
charles ginsberg
1:27 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Who said you were from winthrop? Well, that explains why YOU are so ignorant because you never left this town probably too afraid to even see what it is like outside of your little isolated world. Move back? I haven't lived in winthrop since I graduated from high school over 40 years ago. Please, you don't have any jewish blood. you are such a liar. you went to catholic school here. jewish, what a joke. Tim or whatever your name is, the more you talk the more foolish you sound. fake name fake person. give it a break will ya. one more thing you spell it semitic
Tim
8:24 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
MY world is not Isolated....I have been all over the world and have served this country you protect whinny babies like you so you can have your freedoms, Heck i served even through I didnt agree with who this country is protecting deep down. Don't tell me where I went to school......... Keep trying those 40 single groups ya might find someone yet..... See ya Saturday morning say around 659 am when I start my bike in front of your HOUSE.....
charles ginsberg
8:14 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
hey, all of these posts r from the whiners who lost. I never complained to begin with. didn't even know they were voting on banning leaf blowers. if the vote went the other way I would have said oh well. but you people are unreal. cry cry cry whine whine whine. win or lose take it like a man. I'm just happy they r banned for the summer when there aren't any leaves out anyway. hey tim why don't you give your real full name? people like u like to talk s... but do it anonomously. saturday it is. Hey, I'll be waiting for you.
brent munroe
11:36 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
could Charles Ginsburg be a bigger ass??
charles ginsberg
8:03 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
you spelled my last name wrong.
charles ginsberg
10:28 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
hey, not bigger than u.
brent munroe
11:41 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
You gotta love the "get a rake, lazy" line from a guy who wants to sleep when the rest of us are working.. Priceless!!
charles ginsberg
8:05 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
brent, some of us actually work late.
Coco
8:36 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Charles,
just to give you and others an update. the wouldn't go into effect till next spring BUT it may never happen anyways. The hardworking Landscapers in the Town (and me) got enough signitures on a Petition to stop the ban. The whole town will be VOTING on it in a special election this fall.
BTW, no one would have stopped using the gas blowers, it would have been too hard to enforce. All landscapers would have still used them, it's 5 mins of blowing grass clippings , the landscaper will long gone IF someone called Police..
Morningside
6:20 am on Monday, April 8, 2013
How late could you be selling houses, 7pm, 8pm? Tell you something mr hardest working man errrrr moron in America, I work at least 10 hours a day, starting at 7 everyday
brent munroe
9:38 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Charles, some of us actually work early..
charles ginsberg
10:22 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
there you go susan. and if the anti leaf blower people lose we sure won't be compalining like you all. we'll just take it in stride. but after this special election and we win AGAIN, boy oh boy will you people be criyng and whining. calling rush limbaugh, calling for a u. n. boycott; you'll all be compalining that it was an unfair vote and that the ballot box was stuffed by radical cambridgeites who somehow through some conspiracy got to vote.
charles ginsberg
10:24 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
so what's you point? what's wrong then with using leaf blowers say at 11 or 12 at night while it won't bother me. you wouldn't be against that would you?
brent munroe
9:54 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Well done Susan!! It is important not to just get the landscapers fighting this. The leaf blower is the tip of the iceberg. Chainsaws,power washers, nail guns, generators, jackhammers are just a few of the things that are currently on the table to be banned in other communities. Everyone has a stake in this.
Law enforcement is another issue. Will the police dept. have to increase their staff in order to respond to "leaf crime"? Who is going to pay for that?
charles ginsberg
10:29 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
brent they'll pay for the enforcement with fines from upstanding citizens like u.
Maple Leaf
9:55 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Thats correct Susan.
I support all of the landscapers in town, its a tough job and people need tools to get the job done. Being more effecient is what businesses are talking about. Charles you seem to be a very agressive and rude individual calling people lazy who use leaf blowers. Get off of our backs Charles and try being nice.
charles ginsberg
10:34 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
It's only a ban for the summer when there are very few leaves on the ground anyway. in the fall when the leaves are down the leaf blowers will be used. what's the big deal? just because you agree with your fellow noise makers you might wish to tell some of them to stop being rude, also.
Maple Leaf
10:00 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
You are correct Brent and we need to fight back. Stuff like this is crazy and there is no way the APD will be able to handle the calls.
Even if the ban were to go into effect I would continue using my leaf blower because there are far better things for the police to do instead of catching a leaf blower criminal...
charles ginsberg
10:08 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
well maple leaf get ready to start paying your fines cause I'm sure one of your "neighbors" will call you in to the leaf blowing police
brent munroe
11:19 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Paying for the enforcement of this with the fines from blower complaints has not how it has worked in other towns..Take a look what added enforcement expenses Santa Monica had in policing the leaf blower ban.. More officers, more police vehicles, more clerical police work all so people like Charles can sleep through the day.
charles ginsberg
9:21 pm on Thursday, May 24, 2012
It is doubtful the police will be patrolling for people using gas leaf blowers. but I'll bet people will call it in and then the police will have to respond. I'll call it in if those landscapers wake me up at 7 as they love that early start, then hopefully the police will respond. otherwise I could care less. Brent, Im sure a smart guy like you knows that I never said that I like to sleep all day. Typical lies told by someone who is trying too validate their point.
inthegloaming
12:32 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
Brent, your comments indicate you think people who work early and during the day are somehow better than those who work late/at night and come home at dawn to sleep. Tell that to my brother-in-law who's a Boston EMT on night shift; his wife, the radiologist at MGH, also on night shift: the APD officers who patrol in the wee hours when the rest of us are snoozing peacefully in our beds . . . The list goes on.
brent munroe
11:27 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Sorry Charles, I had a typo in my last message. I'm sure a smart guy like you will be able to figure the general content however..
brent munroe
1:32 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012
Charles, you have at least one legitimate point. Landscapers, or anyone running power equipment, should not be starting any earlier than the town bylaws allow.
What are the laws regarding this? If the early start is your complaint than why limit it to leaf blowers? Why not say all power equipment?
charles ginsberg
11:30 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012
I agree why not all power equipment until 8 a.m. But I'm not that much of an activist so I'll take what was given to me by those who voted.
Lou Gilman
12:53 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012
Not that I've spent too much time looking into this topic or for that matter your wildly compelling arguments Charles and Mary, but isn't it true that the DPW is still allowed to use leaf blowers during this time?? If you're so concerned about pollutants and 'noise' then why don't you encourage the town itself to do the "right thing". I shouldn't have to point out, as I'm sure it's already been brought to your attention several times, that people these days NEED to embrace whatever means they possibly can to make a living, and if you are advocating a ban on a slight inconvenience then you are advocating a huge obstacle to their livelihoods. Its obvious that this town is full of way too many people who think they're entitled to whatever they please, but things like this just bring you people out into the light and make the rest of us sick. There is a place for ultra right wing people like you and in case you didn't know we live in Massachusetts. Even more shocking than the lady who was opposed to having the CVS built on Mass Ave. Is that there really interrupting your quaint lifestyle so much as you thought it would or are you just filling your time with the next petty battle?
inthegloaming
12:44 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
I've noticed that when someone who sides with reversing the ban disagrees with the ban side of the debate, words like "you think you're entitled to whatever you want, well you're NOT / move away if you dont like it to the ghetto reserved for 'your kind; this Town is OUR Town because we were here first!"
Why don't you get it that YOU also can't dictate to others, that YOU also can't always get what you want, that YOU are not "entitled" by any of that to get what you want. Sore losers, please grow up and grow gracious. (I'm not holding my breath.) And leave ad hominem attacks out of the debate. It's a petty distraction. (yes, I know because I've done them elsewhere in this debate, and it gets no one anywhere. But it does expose prejudices, which I suppose is useful information on some level.)
charles ginsberg
11:28 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012
Yes dpw can still use the leafblowers and the ordinance still needs to be ok'd by the state which will take at least 3 months. also, it is only a ban for the summer months. what's the big deal? there aren't even any leaves out on the ground in the summer. Like i said i believe that 7 in the morning is too early to allow all construction and leaf blowers. nothing wrong with 8 a.m but 7 is allowed, soI 'm against the leafblowers. Listen i never proposed a ban for the 4 months but so what it was voted on. Have you ever heard the term majority rules. Well? "if you are advocating a ban on a slight inconvenience then you are advocating a huge obstacle to their livelihoods" get real, a huge obstacle? you mean a minor inconvenience for 4 months. Listen, I went out yesterday and raked the old stuff stuck in the street gutters around my house. took me all but 20 minutes. I watched the landscaper at 7:15 yesterday morning with his 3 leaf blowers across the street at my neighbors house. You know what they were blowing? dirt and some grass clippings, no leaves, just blowing the dirt off the sidewalks in to the street. remember they r called LEAFBLOWERS not dirt blowers, not sidewalk blowers, not grass clipping blowers.
Lou Gilman
9:00 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012
You're in real estate right?? Would you be for a ban against showing homes during the winter because maybe, and I use that word loosely, maybe with snow on the ground it might slightly obstruct some of the neighbors from making an easy exit from or entrance into their driveway? That's the best analogy I can find to attempt to get the concept of having your job duties vary slightly from the norm through your thick head. You said it yourself they WERE in fact blowing grass clippings, that's obviously the purpose of using the blowers when it comes to the summer months! Who cares if they're not called clipping blowers or whatever term you want to use to try and support your weak argument. Using a blower to clear up 5 minutes worth of dust and clippings? Maybe a bit unnecessary but those are the tools of the trade and 90% of the time that's what the job calls for! I'm in home theater installs and if I've just finished drilling a hole, and I have a wall plate to screw back on, yea I could pick up my screwdriver and go by hand but chances are i'm just going to use that same power drill to drive those screws.. Not because i'm lazy but because it's efficient and lets me move on to the next task more quickly! Try thinking outside the box a minute and give up on your weak argument!!
charles ginsberg
1:33 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012
please that is a stupid analogy. that's as good as you can get? secondly I am a trained horticulturist with a bachelor of science in agriculture and grass clippings are supposed to be left on the ground as mulch and fertilizer for the grass that is growing. You are not supposed to blow it out. AND I have seen many lawn mowers professional and home owner ones that either have bags for clippings or vacuums to suck up the clippings while cuttings so there is absolutely no need to be using LEAF BLOWERS to blow through the grass. Your argument is so weak it is pathetic. The job calls for a lawn mower not a leaf blower making noise at 7 a.m. needlessley. It is called a leaf blower for a reason. It's not called a grass blower or a sidewalk dirt blower. The lawns around here are not that large anyway. There are so few leaves on the groud in the summer anyway so they can rake the few that fall no problem. We all live amongst each other so when someone's noise interfereswith the neighbor's we have a right to try and temper it and that is what the town committee members did. You act like it is a permanent ban. IT IS NOT. It is only for the months when the leaves are not falling on the ground. Maybe you do not realize that the ban is not for the fall months when the leaves are falling off the trees. We will see what happens in the next vote.
Morningside
6:25 am on Monday, April 8, 2013
They call it a leaf blower because it was coined that. Like most people call copy machines Xerox machines.......the could be called Brother machines, IBM machines, Dell machines, Canon machines
Lou Gilman
11:23 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012
Charles I'm not trying to submit my analogy for any literary awards, and if you missed the point then you're more stubborn than I thought. I meant to indicate the fact that not everyone everyone does always follows the writing on the box or instruction manual. Finding these people at fault because they're not using a sidewalk blower or clippings blower or whatever you want to call it is simply petty and juvenile. But you said it yourself they ARE in fact blowing clippings OFF THE SIDEWALK and that's because they're using the tools of the trade that make their work the most efficient. I'm sure the last thing they're worried about is trying to blow the clippings off the lawn, and you don't need a BS in Agriculture to know that the clippings do make a good fertilizer. There might even be a few people out there who don't have access to professional grade mulchers, and use their mower to mulch up and bag leaves for that exact purpose. Are you going to discourage them from doing that because they're using a lawnmower and not a mulcher?? If you really are a good citizen concerned about someone's livelihood I mean noise interfering with someone else then by all means temper away, but you should do the right thing and advocate some kind of COMPROMISE, and by that I mean supporting a motion to at least be able to start after a certain time and not backing this BS policy all together.
charles ginsberg
12:58 am on Monday, June 4, 2012
It was supposed to be a permanent ban but they compromised and made it a 4 month ban that won't even go in to effect this year anyway. I would have been happy with a ban say until say 8 a.m. but no, arlington allows all tools of the trades from cement mixers to jackhammers to start at 7 a.m. so I guess it wasn't feasible to just ban 1 item until a certain hour. What r u talking about? You don't need a mulcher the cut grass from the lawn mowers becomes the mulch. All the lawn mowers come with bags to catch the clippings if they want. And the dirt and the clippingsd from the sidewalk come from unnecessary blowing of the cut (mulched) grass being blown in the yards and the dirt from around shrubs being blown away.Totally unnecessary. again it's called a leaf blower for a reason and there are very few leaves out on the ground in the summer months. Yes it is a tool of the trade for blowing leaves. So they can use their tool when the leaves are on the ground. What's wrong with that? Obviously we agree to disagree. The noise is totally offensive to me at 7 in the morning so when it comes up for a vote we'll both vote our own beliefs and the majority will rule AGAIN. And you know what, even if the ban is overturned I won't be whining and crying like all of you. I'll just take it in stride and say oh well. You people r unbelievable. And if it is overturned I will never hear the end of it from all of you on the patch; a bunch of sore losers and worse a bunch of spitefull winners.
Lou Gilman
5:25 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012
if you want to call it whining and crying I'm sure no one would take offense to that coming from someone whose argument is weaker than the motor in the prius you're probably driving. Aside from the immediate implications the reason I'm sure most others are putting up a fight is I can see the line slowly getting pushed back for what's acceptable and what's not. In a community swarmed by certain people who fel entitled to get what they want when they want it, I'm sure this "little" demand wouldn't be the end of it. Its people like you that leaders feel they have to bend the rules for, like the time they banned the pledge of allegiance from 1 of the public schools in Brookline. People would rather piss off the majority than offend the minority, and in this case just because the "town" voted one way I'll bet they don't represent the majority, and that's who you're affecting. Even if the majority IS against it, it sucks I find myself ina day and age where a majority's "convenience" is more important then a minority's livelihood, or part of it at least.
charles ginsberg
7:45 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012
majority rules, what a cry baby..boo hoo boo hoo. in a community swarmed by "certain people" . Who r these certain people you r talking about. come one let's spew out your prejudices. Hey cry baby let's make a 20$ bet that the people who voted for the ban do represent the majority. Oh please, like this 3 and 1/2 month ban is going to put some landscaper's out of business. get real. there aren't even any leaves on the ground during the ban. like the yards r so big around here that for a few months they can't rake and sweep. many of us do our own yards without a loud obnoxious leafblower so quit complaining about nothing. $30,000 for a leafblower vote. what a waste.
charles ginsberg
7:52 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012
I drive a Lexus
BD
5:54 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012
What a stupid idea.
Intervene in the citizens' yard work, use $30k on a vote, and then let us raise taxes again.
I actually have to work and don't have time to attend town hall meetings, so sadly we are run by a bunch of people out of work or government workers (which is almost the same as being out of work)
charles ginsberg
7:50 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012
town committee members do not get paid they r not government workers. I know 3 of them personally and they all have jobs and they find the time because they care. unlike you who wants to compalin after the fact. get involved or keep your peace. just another cry baby. hey you people wanted the vote AGAIN so get out there and vote or will u be to busy working?
Morningside
9:05 am on Sunday, April 7, 2013
They get special compensations
Tom McGinnity
12:42 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
Wanting to still be in bed at 7 am is there real issue here.. Must be nice to be rich and not have to hustle to work
Tom McGinnity
12:43 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
Wanting to still be in bed at 7 am is the real issue here.. Must be nice to be rich and not have to hustle to work ; )
charles ginsberg
2:59 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
ya rich. I wish. people aren't buying houses at 7 in the morning.
inthegloaming
2:48 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Plenty of people work at night, Tom. People who do very important jobs that we get to take for granted while we sleep. Police, firefighters, doctors, nurses, hospital staff, bakers making our morning bakery stuff we grab on the way to work. And they struggle to get restorative rest while the rest of us go around blithely making as much noise as we want because our parents didn't teach us that we didn't own the block ( well, mine did) or that it was rude, inconsiderate, un-neighborly and downright low-class/uncouth to disturb your neighbors. (As Mum used to say, "Hey! Stop that! We're you brought up in a barn?!")
Why does everyone so hate their neighbors in this town that they actually WANT to be mean to them and plot revenge?
Maple Leaf
1:18 pm on Thursday, July 19, 2012
Charles, I am shocked that a person like you who sells real-estate in town speaks like such an obnoxious fool. You are an extension of your employer and you don’t look very professional by the way you are speaking.
I have lived here my whole life and this town has really changed. Lets stop throwing out insults and just all work together in peace. Where is the common ground? This ban is not something that is good for the town in my opinion as it opens the door to other bans on useful equipment. I am voting NO!
inthegloaming
2:50 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
By "work together in peace" toward "common ground" it seems what you really mean is "vote in a way that agrees with MY no vote."
charles ginsberg
2:57 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Dear Maple Leaf,
At lesat I believe in my convictions strong enough to use my real name and not hide behind a monikert like you do. When people throw insults at me I am not one of these nice peace loving people who will stay there and take it. I'll speak up and throw it right back in their face. You see I believe you are the obnoxious fool and please if you want to call me names have the courage to use your real name. Anyone can say shit anonomously. I'm glad you voted no. so what!
Tom McGinnity
3:33 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This issue I thought was over.. I don't even own a gas leaf blower.. the point for me is that I consider it wrong and intrusive to have single irritated people start town wide whacky debates.. The leaf blowers in question have been around for decades with no questions asked.. now its a National topic started up in our own town.. It is amazing to me. What I'm sure of is that Town Meeting shall be much different from now on because of this craziness. I'm hoping normal people ( the majority and core of Arlington ) find a way to get to Town Hall and squash these types of debates before they begin. I for one have been thinking very very hard how I can set aside the time to participate.. I don't want to...for years I had confidence in the good people of my town to make good decisions. Now that it is plain to see they cannot I feel forced to participate myself so I don't have to hear the crap about not participating... I would imagine I am not the type Town Hall is used to but if it must be done.. what can I say
inthegloaming
3:57 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
"squash debate"? Sieg Heil, mien Fuhrer! Wrong country, dude. Debate is what we're founded on.
And threatening "Don't make me come down there and (finally/reluctantly) participate, you won't like it when I participate!" Bring it. I'm sure Charles alone is a match for you.
(you were being tongue in cheek when you wrote this, right? Right? If not, and you claim to be one of the "good" people of the town . . . Excuse me, I got packing to do.)
Tom McGinnity
4:45 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
good
inthegloaming
5:32 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
wait, you're supposed to offer to help! Bring the truck! Fumigate my house when I'm gone so it will be fit for "your kind" of Townie! I'm counting on y'all being good, helpful neighbors! ;-P
inthegloaming
5:19 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Some here said that by and large Arlingtonians are "nice" etc. Can't prove that claim by the comments I've been reading here, about who's a "real Townie" and who belongs and who gets whose way over others. What you snarkers have ignored is that the people who voted FOR the ban* are simply asking for some courteous, considerate, compassionate, neighborly KINDNESS from you all. Instead they get told they aren't YOUR kind of right and they don't belong. Wow. Way to go. I'm hoping that the majority really are kind and considerate, and are out there being good neighbors, instead of here sniping.
*(As I've said before, I didn't vote for or against the ban: I'm lucky enough to not have neighbors firing up gas-powered noise and pollution at any hour, nevermind at 7 am when those who don't work a standard 9-5 job might need those extra few hours. You know the sort: the overnight postal workers/police/firemen/nurses/doctors/restaurant workers. Those "not your sort" of people who are out there while the rest of us get to snooze.
Coco
10:51 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
And it was overturned by the Majority of the town in a recent special election. So i guess that means me, my neighbors and hardworking landscapers in town can and should be able to use leaf blowers in a responsible manor.
charles ginsberg
1:05 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
first of all it won't even take effect until next year and second it is not a full ban. it is only for 4 months of the summer when there are not even leaves on the ground. obviously the majority does not win just like when george w bush lost the popular vote against al gore but won the electoral college thus becoming our president. it's just not fair. right? too bad. we follow the rule of law or else rebel. but quit complaining. whining and crying. whining and crying. move on already. jeez.
charles ginsberg
9:48 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
actually the majority of those who voted DID vote against the PARTIAL ban BUT the RULE of Law is for an election to over turn a town meeting vote a total of 20% of the REGISTERED VOTERS of the town must have voted for or against and that did not happen. So next year for a few months gets your rakes get your brooms but PLEASE QUIT WHINING
Coco
10:00 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Granny, thats not true. How can you says town meeting members represent to town on this issue when the vote showed the opposite by a 2-1 margin. 5,500+ voted to overturn the ban & 2,500 to keep the ban! Obviously they WEREN'T representing their town.!
Coco
11:15 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Granny, there was more than a 20% turn out for the vote. It was the highest ever in many elections. If they had another 241 NO votes..they would have won. If it was a full day of voting instead of the 1/2 day, it would have been overturned..no problem.
Well, at least the Selectmen are listening to the majority and may fix this whole mess.sounds like they are working on a plan that will keep most people happy.
Coco
11:33 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Huh? This isnt a republican or democrat issue. This is a home owners rights issue.
Like i said thank god the Selectmen get "it"
On my way to NH...have a good day.
Tim
12:07 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Charlie Greenberg is a whiny yuppie who doesnt know what it like to get up at 5 am to get to work . No he wants quiet all day in the city so he can sleep. He is like my crazy neighbors who don't like Christmas light. PS. Charlie I am not hiding my name . If you are from Arlington like you claim then you would have no problem figuring out who I am
inthegloaming
2:59 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
(sigh) Tim? Do you really believe no one works at night/everyone has a standard 9 to 5 job? I'll repeat until you accept some FACTS: Police. Firefighters. Doctors. Nurses. Hospital staff. EMTs. Bakers who make our morning goodies we grab on the way to our day jobs. Someone who's elderly, or housebound or chronically ill or gets migraines might need to sleep during the day.
You're so angry about rules being imposed on you, but you seem to think it fair that YOU impose your rules of staying awake all day because thats more convenient for you/serves your side of the argument better.
Tim
12:45 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Arlington is trying to be controlled by a group of communists . I think this vote has shown that people are not going to stand for this anymore ....
Tim
6:43 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Inthegloaming . I happen to work overnights and on my days Off I am up at 5 so please spear me the violins . I am sick and tired of these cry baby yuppies . This ban is never gonna happen ..Good luck to Charlie Greenberg . What's next Charlie ?? Banning Christmas lights?
inthegloaming
7:58 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Good for you Tim! Whatever floats your boat. But what about other people who can't do that? Are you saying they HAVE to because YOU think that "morning people" are somehow "better" than night people? And what "yuppies" are you referring to? The other night workers who don't get up at 5 am on their day off? btw, it's not good to shake up your sleep schedule like that. Better to keep to a routine. So if you sleep 8-10 recommended hours during the day (because of a night job), then keep it that way or you'll screw up your R.E.M. cycle, which is the restorative cycle. (Oh, wait, NOW I see why you're so dense! Your brain isn't working on all cylinders due to sleep schedule fubar-edness.)
And oh spare me the "this is a slipper slope, next it will be Xmas lights and children playing and . . and. . . and. Stick to the real subject at hand and don't toss in non-existent distractions. Think you can manage that? With your sleep deprived brain?
brent munroe
9:40 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Cambridge, Brookline and now Arlington. What a surprise. Do you know why this kind of crap doesn't happen in working class towns? Because in working class towns people are working, not sleeping through the day. This is pathetic
inthegloaming
3:05 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Brent! Are you saying no one works at night/Everyone works during the day? Especially "working class" people? (And please define that class, because seems to me anyone who HAS to work for a paycheck is a member.). Wow. I have to say there are no words to adequately respond to this kind of willful ignorance.
joe
9:19 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
the more i read the more i think you are all nuts.Get off the computer get out and live life.Why are you fighting with people. who really cares what you think.I am just fine with people not feeling the same same way i do.I will still do what i want as long as commonsense wins the argument.
inthegloaming
2:38 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Joe: well, some of us can multitask while stuck at work, if we have to wait for, say, software programs to upload on computers we might be revitalizing. Going on the Internet with an iPad can pass the time very entertainingly. For my part, every now and then I just get tired of passively watching The Stoopid keep blabbering without raising some objection. But you raise a good point. As me Mum useta say: Never wallow in the mud with a pig. You just get dirty, and the pig enjoys it.
So why are YOU here reading and commenting instead of "out" -- dude! It's either drenching raining or unbearably humid "out" there! Ugh! -- living life? And do we care what you think? :-)
Tim
9:41 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Inthegloaming The yuppies I am referring to are the silly ones that move here and wanna change things that have been happening for years to their way because they don't like it ... The silly yuppies that complain because you have too many Christmas lights on your house .. Or how about the yuppies that don't want their kids to say the pledge in school but want to sing Hebrew folk songs . Silly liberals who have warpped common sense . Those Yuppies you know the kind I am talking about the ones who get their masters from Harvard but don't have enough common sense to get out of the rain. The kind that grew up in Winthrop and move to Arlington because they got their butts kicked their whole lives and are now trolling the internet dating sites .. Those yuppies ....
charles ginsberg
12:15 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
tim you are dating yourself. the yuppies have grown up. "you know the kind I am talking about" Tim you are such a racist pig biggot piece of crap. no one has ever kicked my butt and i've had a few good fights. tim, for you this has nothing to do with leaf blowers but everting to do with hating people who are not like poor ignorant you. you are a patehtic piece of crap.
inthegloaming
2:52 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Um, sounds like some personal grudge you got going ther. I have never met nor heard of these people. Btw, do you remember that the term "yuppie" refers to young upwardly mobile urban professionals. What's wrong with being any of those things? Most of our grandparents and before emigrated to the US to have the opportunity for a better life for themselves and especially their kids. People wanted to progress, to CHANGE, to have freedom (of religion, for just one) from the oppression of "nothing changes here for centuries/ we've always done it this way in the past and we'll keep doing it this way."
Tim, if you want things to never change, I'm afraid you'll just have to go live somewhere where there aren't advances in culture/society informed by science, technology, open-minded education, separation of church and state, media, etc. Kentucky? Afghanistan? I don't know. But I'm guessing Charles and I will help you pack! :-) I'll bring the hummus dip.
charles ginsberg
11:33 am on Monday, August 13, 2012
i'll bring the chips. and Tim don't forget to get that swastika tatoo removed.
Tim
8:07 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
I am all for change .. As for that Nit Wit Charles Greenberg calling me a racist he has no clue .... It has to do with leaf blowers .. Who are these people to say what I can and cannot on my property? LIKE I SAID WHAT'S. NEXT CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ? This ban has nothing to do with noise pollution , or air pollution because if it was we would be banning MBTA BUSES seeing that they produce over 90db of noise which is way over acceptable levels . I am also pretty sure that buses produce more air pollution then leaf blowers . This ban has to do wi th a group of these crazies who don't like leaf blowers or don't like the fact that their neighbors have a landscaper . And as for you Charlie Greenberg keep throwing the insults ....
charles ginsberg
11:37 am on Monday, August 13, 2012
hey tim which is probably not even your real name, give it a break. go enjoy the rest of the summer if you even know how. maybe you could take an anger management class or something. I'm done. you're pathetic. see you at the next battle. sieg heil timmy, sieg heil.
MICHAEL MALONEY
11:05 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I use a blower due to a back injury. However, I am dead set against someone like Kerble, who, last year, sent his crew to work at 7:00 AM, a Sunday morning, at the corner of Robbins Rd. & Howard St. It's illegal, but the police did not respond to my complaint & the blowers ruined the morning.
Morningside
6:37 am on Monday, April 8, 2013
All I know is I will be putting my mothers house up for sale soon, and I want a Real Estate guy who does not sleep half the day away, or is close minded, stubborn, rude, condescending, or a Nazi lover which is surprising for a Sheeny like Greenspan, ginstien ummmm Charles